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Mormon Awakenings: Episode 018: Jack and Bill (Go Up a Hill)

Bill Reel joins Jack Naneek for a discussion about seeking validation, the institutional church and where to find peace when no one around you seems able or willing to give it.  Is anger a necessary step towards greater understanding, or, is it a stumbling block?  And just who has the final say at the end of the day? In the end, Jack and Bill both offer their speculate views about the future evolution of the church and how it will deal with current hot button topics.


3 thoughts on “Mormon Awakenings: Episode 018: Jack and Bill (Go Up a Hill)”

  1. Spoilers:

    Wow guys, serious conundrums. It’s the weirdness of Mormonism that binds us together, and how figuring out our own is part of life. Very philosophical outlooks. May take hearing more than once to properly digest.

    The plight of LGBT and how we can understand them better… I sometimes get tired of hearing that rant. I believe the LGBT community has never had it better, still some things to go but they are well on the path of full society acceptance and churches within the next 20 years just like blacks are nowadays in comparison to racism and segregation. Society and churches will follow, Mormonism will change too.

    And all this started from not having to be angry about it all.

  2. I listened to this on my lunchtime run today. I’ve been struggling with this very idea lately. Why can’t I just let go and move on. I believe I’ve taken ownership of my spiritual position and yet I have to ask myself, what do I want from the church? I realize now that the only statement I would accept as good enough from them is “you’re right rod, the church isn’t true.”
    The main problem for me in continuing forward in my own journey is that I’m married to a TBM My kids are all in and now 5 grandsons are being raised in it. If I wasn’t tied to it through family I wouldn’t be listening to this podcast. It would all be in the rear view mirror

  3. I suggest the book The Sin of Certainty, by Peter Enns and also Falling Upwards by Richard Rohr. Both address the loneliness of being in the second half of life when everyone else is still in the first. But, as with everything else, loneliness has its purpose and beauty.

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